Georgetown Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday August 5, 2025
The order of items in transcripts is the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
JAMES300.94 OGDEN300.94 -300.94 ZONING300.94 BOARD300.94 OF300.94 APPEALS300.94 CHAIR300.94 -300.94 To300.94 request301.11 the301.75 select302.14 board302.54 to302.7 appoint302.87 2303.19 members303.35 to303.9 the304.06 ZBA304.23 until306.04 vacant306.36 positions306.76 are307.16 filled.307.32 Is308.44 this308.68 something308.84 we309.24 need309.4 to309.72 vote309.88 on310.12 or310.28 just310.44
311 ROBYN311 HOLT311 -311 TOWN311 OF311 GEORGETOWN311 -311 I311 don't311.16 know311.4 how311.48 to311.64 go.311.88
313.08 THOMAS313.08 MULLIGAN313.08 -313.08 ZONING313.08 BOARD313.08 OF313.08 APPEALS313.08 MEMBER313.08 -313.08 So313.08 in313.24 our313.56 bylaws,313.8 when315.48 we're315.72 short316.04 members,316.52 a318.38 member318.69 of319.1 the319.25 Board319.57 of319.81 Selectmen319.89 can320.62 be320.85 appointed321.25 by321.89 the322.13 Board322.38 of322.69 Selectmen322.77 to323.5 temporarily323.81 fill324.38 the324.62 vacancy.324.77 And326.38 we326.77 actually326.94 did327.33 it327.5 2327.65 years327.81 ago,328.13 just328.77 before329.01 Leo329.5 Ryan329.81 and330.06 John330.21 Pingree330.45 came330.94 on331.1 board.331.25 And332.77 they333.17 appointed333.57 2334.61 members334.93 of335.25 the335.41 board335.57 of335.81 selectmen335.89 for336.37 1336.45 meeting.336.69 And337.25 then337.41 Leo337.89 and338.45 John338.85 had340.21 been340.85 in341.09 the341.25 process,341.41 and341.89 they342.05 filled342.29 those.342.61 And344.83 I345.07 really345.39 think345.63 we346.44 should346.6 request346.92 that347.31 from347.56 the347.8 board347.88 of348.19 selectmen348.27 for349.39 the349.71 2350.19 vacant350.6 full351.31 members351.56 and353.15 then353.31 keep353.88 soliciting354.27 people.355 And355.56 again,355.88 again,356.19 anybody,357 member357.71 of358.12 the358.19 public,358.36 we359.91 have360.15 2360.95 full361.83 members,362.15 vacant,363.11 and363.75 an363.99 alternate364.23 member.364.79 You365.35 don't365.67 need365.99 to366.15 be366.31 an366.47 attorney.366.63 You367.11 don't367.27 need367.51 to367.67 be367.83 a367.99 developer.368.15 You368.63 don't368.79 need368.95 to369.19 be369.27 an369.43 engineer.369.59 Just370.71 come371.26 in371.5 with371.67 common371.99 sense,372.47 and373.19 we'll373.91 train.374.63 We'll375.26 work375.5 with375.75 you.376.06 The376.94 Merrimack377.19 Valley377.67 Planning377.99 Committee378.38 has378.79 training,379.11 things380.23 like380.55 that.380.71 And382.47 it's382.63 not382.87 an383.19 overly383.5 burdensome384.06 board385.26 to385.59 be385.75 on.385.91 And386.83 right387.15 now,387.31 we387.71 have388.11 a388.59 great388.75 team389.15 of389.47 5.389.63 So,392.67 I394.43 think394.51 we394.67 do394.83 need395.07 a395.71 motion395.87 in396.51 a396.75 second,396.83 and397.39 we397.63 should397.79 vote398.03 that398.35 the398.99 board399.15 would399.47 like399.71 to400.29 ask400.45 the400.62 board400.69 of400.94 selectmen401.1 to401.98 fill402.06 up.402.21
402.54 UNIDENTIFIED402.54 SPEAKER402.54 1-402.54 Can402.54 I402.69 ask402.77 a402.94 question?403.01 Where's403.98 Tracy404.62 just405.01 not405.18 coming405.33 today?405.57
405.81 MULLIGAN405.81 -405.81 She406.21 resigned.406.38
406.86 UNIDENTIFIED406.86 SPEAKER406.86 1406.86 -406.86 Oh,406.86 she407.01 resigned.407.25
MULIGAN407.74 -407.74 Yeah.407.74 Yeah.407.98 Because408.21 just410.29 a410.69 boatload410.85 of411.42 stuff.411.5 Tracy411.81 is412.76 involved412.92 in413.28 youth413.64 sports.413.88
OGDEN414.36 -414.36 Softballing.414.36 No.414.92
415.24 MULLIGAN-415.24 Yeah.415.24 Things415.56 like415.88 that.416.12 So416.36 juggling416.6 and417.08
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OGDEN421 -421 This421 board421.24 meeting421.56 once421.96 a422.12 month422.28 is422.68 kinda422.92 nice.423.24 Some424.76 people425 do425.24 have425.48 even425.88 busier426.12 schedules.426.6 -429.29 Would429.29 anybody429.52 like429.85 to430.08 make430.17 a430.32 motion?430.4
LEO431.69 RYAN431.69 -431.69 ZONING431.69 BOARD431.69 OF431.69 APPEALS431.69 MEMBER431.69 -431.69 Make431.69 a431.93 motion432 that432.49 we432.73 ask433.93 the434.17 select,434.4 the435.21 board435.37 of435.61 selectmen435.69 on436.25 select436.49 board436.81 to437.13 appoint437.29 2437.69 members437.85 to438.25 the438.4 ZBA438.64 until439.61 the440.4 vacant440.56 positions441.05 are441.44 filled.441.61
443.38 UNIDENTIFIED443.38 SPEAKER443.38 1443.38 -443.38 I443.38 can443.62 second443.86 it.444.18
445.14 RYAN445.14 -445.14 Thank445.14 you.445.3 Second445.46 it.445.78 You445.94 can446.02 second.446.1
OGDEN448.58 -448.58 I448.58 guess448.66 we're448.9 not449.06 really449.22 on449.46 Zoom.449.62 So450.02 all450.26 in450.5 favor?450.66 Aye.452.1 Aye.452.42 It's453.54 unanimous.453.7 The463.65 next463.88 item464.13 on464.44 our464.61 agenda464.76 is465.65 the465.97 Tiffany466.13 Bowes466.53 invoice.466.85 That's468.38 just468.7 to468.94 replenish.469.1 $40.06.469.9 $40.06.473.42 And483.51 picking483.91 bows484.31 is484.63 just484.79 postage486.24 stuff.486.71 Does492.39 anybody492.79 like492.79 to492.95 make493.03 a493.15 motion493.27 to493.68 pay495.59 this?495.83 I'll497.31 make497.47 a497.59 motion497.71 for498.11 $40.06.498.27
UNIDENTIFIED499.71 SPEAKER499.71 1499.71 -499.71 Sure.499.71 I'll499.95 make500.19 a500.35 motion500.43 to500.75 pay501.07 Pitney501.39 Bowes501.87 $40.06.502.59
504.75 MULLIGAN504.75 -504.75 I'll504.75 second504.99 that505.31 motion.505.55
506.75 OGDEN506.75 -506.75 All506.75 in506.99 favor?507.15 Aye.507.63 Aye.508.27 This510.4 is510.56 easy.510.71 The514.24 hard514.39 part514.63 is514.79 figuring514.96 out515.2 which515.27 is515.51 the515.6 middle515.67 sense.516 We516.24 use.516.39 Signing518.96 the519.36 left519.51 or519.67 the520 right?520.08
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OGDEN527.93 -527.93 Thank527.93 you.528.25 Now531.37 we531.69 get531.77 to531.93 the532.09 fun532.17 part532.41 of532.57 the532.65 agenda.532.73 We536.13 have536.45 some536.68 ongoing537.25 special538.45 permits,541.33 I541.81 guess.541.88 Don't543 have543.25 board543.33 permits543.64 for544.05 a544.37 few544.52 sites544.76 in545.09 town.545.25 And,546.21 just547.09 kinda547.25 wanted547.57 to547.88 share548.05 an548.29 update548.52 on549.09 some549.95 of550.27 those550.35 sites.550.51 The553.31 first553.47 1553.79 is554.03 206554.91 West555.55 Main555.79 Street.556.03 Most557.39 of557.63 you557.71 will558.03 recall558.27 that558.75 they559.79 were559.95 approved,560.11 I560.51 believe,560.59 to560.91 build561.07 9561.63 apartments,562.35 condo-style564.93 apartments565.25 in566.46 a566.62 building,566.77 which567.18 kinda567.82 looks568.05 like568.3 2568.46 buildings,568.62 but569.01 it's569.18 considered569.98 1570.46 building.570.62 Throughout573.5 the573.98 history574.05 of574.46 the574.54 project,575.01 the575.65 building575.82 was576.3 constructed576.46 a577.01 bit577.1 too577.34 tall,577.5 and578.93 they579.41 came579.65 in579.81 to579.97 request580.13 a580.53 variance,580.69 and581.89 the582.13 variance582.37 was582.77 denied.583.01 And584.13 they584.37 had584.53 been584.69 working584.93 with585.25 the585.41 building585.57 inspector585.97 to586.61 come586.93 up587.09 with587.25 a587.49 plan587.89 to588.45 correct589.49 the590.05 building590.37 height590.77 violation.590.93 And594.01 I594.98 guess595.13 the595.38 update595.54 is595.86 that,596.18 as596.58 far596.82 as597.06 everybody597.3 can597.77 see,598.01 nothing599.22 has599.54 been599.7 done599.86 to600.34 update600.65 the601.77 building601.93 height602.34 violation.602.82 There608.17 has608.41 been608.65 ongoing608.89 work609.37 at609.61 the609.69 site,609.85 and613.85 I614.09 believe614.25 that's614.57 where615.21 the615.45 building615.53 inspectors615.93 left616.49 it616.73 is616.81 that617.05 they're618.39 not618.55 gonna618.72 obtain618.96 occupancy619.43 permits620 until620.48 they621.2 come621.43 into621.67 compliance,622 and624.63 they624.79 do625.03 continue625.2 to625.6 work625.75 at626 their626.08 own626.24 risk626.48 at627.03 their627.2 own627.43 expense,627.75 obviously.628.24 We631.89 don't632.05 have632.13 any632.37 actions632.69 or632.93 anything633.17 to633.41 take633.49 on633.73 this633.81 at634.05 this634.13 moment.634.29 You635.73 guys635.89 have637.33 any637.57 questions637.73 or638.13 comments638.29 about638.69 it?638.93 I639.89 wasn't640.05 here640.37 for640.61 the640.77 variance640.85 hearing.641.33
MULLIGAN645.08 -645.08 So645.08 I645.24 recall645.32 we645.72 denied645.88 the646.36 variance646.43 for646.84 the647 hype647.15 because647.39 they647.63 could647.8 not647.96 prove648.2 the648.36 hardship.648.51 I've649.96 had650.2 a650.43 few650.51 townsfolk650.84 reach651.63 out651.88 to652.04 me652.2 to653 give653.39 me653.39 the653.55 status.653.8 So655.15 right655.39 now,655.55 there's655.8 nothing656.2 before656.6 this657 board.657.24 There's657.55 no657.8 enforcement658.04 before658.84 this659.24 board.659.48 It's660.03 actually660.43 with660.75 the660.99 building661.15 inspector.661.71 In662.75 a662.91 couple663.07 of663.39 conversations663.39 I've664.11 had664.27 with664.51 the664.67 building664.83 inspector,665.15 he665.63 has665.87 been666.19 staying666.43 right666.75 on666.99 top667.23 of667.47 it667.63 and668.67 everything.668.91 And669.47 like669.71 you669.95 said,670.43 there670.75 are671.07 no671.07 occupancy671.31 permits672.03 being672.75 issued673.15 because673.71 of673.95 the675.16 violation.675.33 So678.04 I678.37 know678.45 I678.68 just678.92 wanted679.16 to679.73 make679.88 sure680.04 we680.37 were680.52 all680.76 on680.92 the681.09 same681.16 page.681.33 I681.57 don't681.73 know681.88 if682.04 you682.21 folks682.37 are682.61 receiving682.76 any683.25 phone683.49 calls683.73 or684.04 inquiries684.28 when684.76 you're685 running685.16 into685.49 different685.8 people.686.13
686.68 RYAN686.68 -686.68 I686.68 guess686.85 I687.16 got687.33 a687.88 phone687.97 call688.28 from688.52 a688.76 former689.41 member.691.17 Yeah.691.73 Yeah.693.09
OGDEN697.01 -697.01 I697.01 mean,697.17 right704.3 now,704.47 it's704.87 an705.83 issue706.07 where706.38 the707.35 applicant707.59 and708.14 the708.3 property708.47 owners708.87 are709.67 they're,716.78 I716.78 guess,716.94 they're717.18 operating717.42 on719.1 their719.26 own.720.22 With720.46 the720.7 knowledge,720.86 they're721.26 not721.42 gonna721.58 get721.82 the721.98 occupancy722.06 permit.722.54 The724.06 concerns724.22 I724.62 have724.78 are725.18 related725.34 to725.74 the725.9 ongoing,726.46 open729.02 house729.26 activity729.58 and730.22 sale731.92 goal733.13 for733.45 sale733.68 that735.21 will735.37 eventually735.61 they'll737.04 get737.37 they're737.61 gonna737.76 get738 buyers738.33 tied739.29 into739.45 buying739.76 units,740.09 and744.54 those744.78 buyers745.1 are745.34 gonna745.42 find745.66 themselves745.82 in746.22 very746.3 uncomfortable746.54 positions.747.26
748.86 RYANS748.86 -748.86 Did748.86 I749.1 hear749.18 that749.42 there750.06 would750.3 have750.54 been750.78 1751.02 unit751.26 that751.58 was751.74 sold751.98 on752.54 a752.78 lower752.94 unit?753.26 I754.7 don't755.1 know.755.34
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ERIC758.82 BURTON758.82 -758.82 ZONING758.82 BOARD758.82 OF758.82 APPEALS758.82 MEMBER758.82 -758.82 So758.82 they're759.05 legally759.29 allowed759.77 to760.01 do760.17 that?760.41
MULLIGAN762.65 -762.65 They762.65 just762.82 can't763.05 move763.29 in?763.53
OGDEN763.86 -763.86 Yeah.763.86 They764.17 just764.41 can't764.65 provide768.01 the768.41 occupancy768.5 permit769.05 until769.86 they770.17 comply770.82 with771.29 the771.46 height771.53 violation.771.77 I774.09 had774.25 some774.41 concerns774.65 when775.05 I775.21 reconsidered775.37 the776.65 activity776.81 that777.29 was777.45 going777.61 on777.85 there.778.09 Shortly779.53 after779.93 the780.17 variance780.25 hearing,780.65 I780.89 recall781.05 driving781.45 by781.77 and781.93 seeing782.09 some782.41 scaffolding783.21 go783.77 up.784.01 And784.65 I784.89 thought,784.97 not786.25 really786.41 how786.73 I786.89 would786.97 stage787.21 the788.33 correction,788.49 but789.05 they789.85 put790 up790.17 staging,790.33 and790.97 they791.29 thought791.45 they791.61 might791.85 start792.09 to792.4 explore792.57 adjusting794 the794.4 roof794.57 height.794.8 But795.68 what795.85 they796 did796.17 was796.4 they796.64 added796.88 more797.21 siding.797.45 Yeah.798.57 Right.798.97 And799.61 when799.93 I800.17 thought800.25 about800.49 it800.61 later,800.73 I801.05 realized801.61 that802.09 they802.33 added802.49 siding,802.8 like,803.75 above804.07 the804.47 35-foot805.11 mark.805.27 And806.39 they806.71 actually806.95 don't807.35 have807.51 a807.75 permit807.91 to808.31 do808.47 that.808.55 So810.63 it810.95 gets811.11 a811.35 little811.43 gray811.67 where812.07 they813.99 know814.31 they're814.55 in814.71 violation.814.87 They're815.67 doing815.91 nothing816.15 to816.55 correct816.71 it.817.11 And818.76 what818.93 they're819.17 what819.57 I819.81 see819.88 them820.13 doing820.29 is820.61 actively820.93 expending821.73 time822.52 and822.76 money822.85 on825.33 things825.57 that825.88 are826.52 going826.76 to827 have827.17 to827.33 be827.4 removed.828.21 To828.61 remedy828.68 the829.17 situation.829.88 So831.59 it831.83 confuses832.23 me832.79 and832.95 it833.19 perplexes834.39 me.834.95 Yeah.835.19
MULLIGAN835.59 -835.59 But835.59 again,835.83 it's836.15 at836.31 their836.47 peril.836.71
837.51 OGDEN837.51 -837.51 It's837.51 at837.75 their837.91 peril.838.15
840.71 MULLIGAN840.71 -840.71 So,840.71 because840.71 all841.11 the841.27 appeals841.51 processes841.91 expired,842.79 everything843.43 like843.75 that,843.91 on844.63 denial.844.71 So,847.88 again,847.96 speaking848.37 with848.68 the848.92 building849.16 inspector,849.57 he850.04 has850.13 no850.37 intention850.52 of851 issuing851.16 occupancy851.96 permit852.61 until853 the853.33 corrections853.49 of853.88 it.854.13
855.4 HOLT855.4 -855.4 And855.4 there855.64 have855.8 been855.88 no856.13 requests856.68 for857.16 any857.4 other858.37 inspections859.49 other860.13 than860.37 Jim.860.52 Unit861.96 225862.28 has864.02 only864.26 gone864.5 through864.74 the865.06 roof865.14 for865.3 plumbing867.86 and868.5 electrical.869.06 So870.5
OGDEN872.58 -872.58 Looking872.58 at872.9 it873.06 from873.14 the873.3 street873.46 or873.86 1874.1 through874.34 5,874.58 I'm874.9 not875.14 sure.875.22 Fair877.06 enough.877.3 Alright.880.25 Can880.64 I881.44 mean,882
883.04 BURTON883.04 -883.04 I'm883.04 still883.2 a883.37 little883.52 perplexed883.76 here?884.25 So,884.4 is884.64 there884.8 risk884.96 for885.2 fraud?885.44 Like,885.76 can886 the886.16 developers886.96 sell887.68 these887.92 units888.16 and888.64 then,888.88 like,889.28 run889.85 to890.08 Europe890.25 with890.57 the890.73 money,890.88 or891.13 you891.44 know891.52 what891.68 I891.92 mean?892 Like892.25
893.1 MULLIGAN893.1 -893.1 I893.1 can't893.58 see893.98 any894.22 lending894.54 institution895.5 releasing898.62 funds899.02 without899.58 occupancy900.06 permits.900.7
BURTON901.42 -901.42 Only901.42 for901.82 those902.06 who902.3 have902.46 all-out902.78 cash.903.02 All903.74 out903.98 cash.904.14
904.94 OGDEN904.94 -904.94 Yeah.904.94 And905.26 I905.58 hypothetically,906.26 people907.07 buyers907.95 could908.26 show908.5 up,908.66 put908.9 down909.14 deposits,909.38 have911.46 a911.63 time911.7 frame911.95 in912.26 mind,912.42 uproot913.54 their914.02 lives914.18 with914.75 the915.54 anticipation915.78 that916.42 they're916.58 moving916.82 in917.14 right.917.78 And918.18 then918.26 come920.75 here920.91 with921.15 pitchforks.921.31
921.95 MULLIGAN-921.95 But921.95 I922.27 don't922.35 know922.59 if922.99 there's923.07 anything923.47 we923.95 can924.19 do924.43 as924.75 a924.91 board,925.07 and926.51 as926.75 long926.91 as927.07 the927.23 building927.39 inspector927.79 is928.19 staying928.35 on928.67 top928.83 of929.07 it.929.23 So930.75
RYAN932.03 -932.03 So932.03 most932.35 of932.59 this932.75 is933.23 done933.71 roughly934.43 inside934.43 5935.63 units.935.87
HOLT937.05 -937.05 Yep.937.05
938.33 OGDEN938.33 -938.33 I938.33 think938.4 it's938.64 worth938.8 noting939.05 that939.37 the941.05 project941.29 of941.68 that941.85 scale942.09 isn't,944.33 like,944.64 a945.05 typical945.05 building945.85 permit946.25 process946.64 where947.52 the947.76 building947.93 inspector948.33 inspects949.55 every949.95 step950.19 of950.43 the950.51 way,950.67 signs951.39 off951.71 every951.95 step952.11 of952.35 the952.43 way.952.59 It953.39 falls953.63 in954.03 the954.35 building954.51 code954.75 under955.07 controlled955.39 construction.956.03 So956.91 there's957.15 an957.31 architect957.47 involved957.95 who959.07 I959.23 believe959.39 is959.79 responsible960.03 for960.75 providing960.91 certifications961.39 every962.75 step963.07 of963.31 the963.47 way963.55 that964.38 the964.63 building964.78 is965.18 being965.35 built965.59 per965.9 plan,966.14 per967.11 code,967.35 and968.38 the968.54 building968.71 inspector969.11 collects969.66 some970.07 certifications,970.3 reviews971.18 them,971.75 and972.78 then972.95 issues973.26 final973.75 permits.974.14
RYAN975.18 -975.18 He975.18 does975.42 not975.66 have975.75 to975.9 do976.07 that.976.42 But976.78 he976.95 does977.42 not977.66 have977.9 to977.99 do978.07 that.978.23 Yes.978.54 Right.979.91 How980.31 did980.55 that980.63 work980.79 out981.03 for981.19 us?981.27
983.83 MULLIGAN983.83 -983.83 Well,983.83 that's983.99 actually984.23 how984.63 we984.79 found984.95 out.985.19 Right.985.59 Remember,985.91 the986.31 first986.47 architect986.79 report987.43 was987.91 the988.23 second988.23 architect988.55 who989.67 tipped989.67 us989.91 off.990.15 Do991.67 we991.91 is992.63 Jim992.95 Bedding993.19 in993.75 contact993.75 with994.23 the994.47 architect?994.63
HOLT996.75 -996.75 I996.75 don't997 know997.15 how997.39 recently.997.63 I998.27 know998.43 he998.6 was998.83 because999.88 he1000.43 was1000.67 saying1000.83 he1001.07 needed1001.24 documentation.1002.12
MULLIGAN1003.15 -1003.15 Okay.1003.15 So1003.79 the1004.03 architect1004.19 is1004.67 aware1004.91 that1005.39 as1005.95 the1006.6 condo1007.24 units1007.63 sit1008.12 today,1008.36 they're1009.15 in1009.39 violation1009.48 of1010.43 our1011.39 bylaws.1011.55 Okay.1012.75
OGDEN1020.35 -1020.35 So,1020.35 again,1020.59 I1020.91 guess1021.07 the1021.23 point1021.31 of1021.55 adding1021.71 it1021.95 to1022.03 the1022.19 agenda1022.27 was1022.67 to1023.15 make1023.23 sure1023.39 that1023.63 we1023.79 all1023.95 sort1024.19 of1024.35 hadn't1026.91 forgotten1027.15 about1027.56 it.1028.36 And1028.43 we1028.6 haven't.1028.76 There's1031.08 just1031.32 not1031.56 a1031.72 lot1031.8 that1032.04 we1032.28 can1032.36 do1032.6 about1032.76 it1033 at1033.15 this1033.24 point.1034.28 Until1035 they1035.39 do1035.63 request1035.8 occupancy1036.28 permits.1036.76 And1038.36 then1038.52 that's1038.76 mostly1039.15 the1039.88 building1040.04 inspector's1040.36 domain,1041.78 but1042.9 they1044.5 don't1044.66 see1044.9 this1045.14 board1045.3 signing1045.62 off1045.86 on1046.02 any1047.3 permits1047.62 until1047.94 it's1048.9 rectified.1049.86 Yeah.1052.82 I've1053.38 taken,1053.46 I1054.5 was1054.66 gonna1054.98 defer1055.54 to1055.94 some1056.26 people1056.42 here.1056.74 We1057.3 don't1057.52 have1057.76 a1057.91 public1057.99 comment1058.39 section1058.8 on1059.12 here,1059.28 so1059.52 we1059.84 don't1059.99 really...1060.15
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