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Georgetown Planning Board
Wednesday March 12, 2025
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HARRY11.84 LACORTIGLIA11.84 -11.84 PLANNING11.84 BOARD11.84 CHAIR11.84 -11.84 Great.11.84 The12.16 public12.4 hearing12.64 will12.88 be13.04 held13.2 on13.36 Wednesday,13.52 03/12/2025,13.92 7:1517.07 PM.17.63 It'll18.34 be18.59 held18.66 virtually18.91 via19.46 Zoom,19.7 at20.02 which20.18 time20.43 interested20.66 persons21.07 may21.46 appear.21.7 You22.27 heard22.43 in22.66 relation22.74 there23.23 too.23.46 The23.7 link23.86 to24.11 the24.18 meeting24.35 is24.98 available25.22 on25.7 my25.79 agenda.25.95 Below28.13 this28.93 is28.93 the28.93 full29.09 text29.33 of29.65 the29.81 amendments30.05 are30.45 on30.61 file30.85 in31.57 the31.73 planning31.89 office32.37 and32.85 with33.25 the33.41 link33.57 below33.89 that's34.21 available34.53 up35.09 there.35.25 For38.21 this38.53 information38.93 about39.49 the39.73 public39.81 hearings,40.21 you44.73 can44.81 go44.98 to45.13 georgetownmass.gov45.22 and46.89 find47.13 out47.38 everything47.53 you48.09 need48.34 to48.49 find48.66 out.48.89 With49.61 that49.85 being50.09 said,50.41 my51.3 understanding51.61 is52.25 we53.61 have53.77 the54.02 tier54.17 sheets54.41 to54.73 show54.89 that55.13 this55.76 public56.08 hearing56.4 was57.52 published58.16 in58.8 a59.04 newspaper59.12 called59.76 the60 Town60.16 Common60.48 on62.96 02/19/2025.63.2 With66.48 that66.72 being66.96 said,67.2 I67.52 will67.6 stop67.84 my68.24 sharing68.4 now,68.88 and69.78 I69.94 will70.19 call70.5 a70.66 roll70.83 call71.14 to72.02 make72.42 sure72.66 that72.91 all73.14 of73.38 the73.47 board73.55 members73.94 are74.27 here.74.42 I'm75.47 Harry75.7 Lacortiglia.76.02
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101.22 LACORTIGLIA101.22 -101.22 So101.22 with101.45 Frank104.73 O'Connor,104.97 our105.61 planner,108.33 would108.49 you108.66 take108.81 it108.97 away?109.13 Would109.45 you109.69 begin110.73 this111.13 for111.3 everybody,111.53 please?112.4
112.88 FRANK112.88 O’CONNOR112.88 -112.88 TOWN112.88 OF112.88 GEORGETOWN112.88 -112.88 Sure.112.88 Thank112.88 you113.12 very113.2 much,113.36 Mr.113.92 Chairman.114.88 This114.88 evening,115.12 we're115.52 here115.76 to116 discuss120.08 the120.08 zoning120.88 overlay121.68 district122.32 for123.2 compliance123.44 with124 the124.24 state124.64 mandate125.04 for126 multifamily126.48 housing127.44 at128.47 a128.63 density128.72 of129.35 15129.84 units130.31 per131.03 acre131.35 known131.84 as132.16 MBTA3a.133.91 We134.88 have135.12 three135.44 districts136.4 comprising138.56 50139.28 acres,139.68 three140.24 different140.47 parts141.08 of141.4 town,141.48 to142.6 help142.76 us142.92 meet143.16 the143.48 state143.72 requirement144.12 for144.76 a145.4 capacity145.64 to147.08 have147.24 zoning147.48 for147.96 750149.16 units149.48 of149.8 housing.149.96 I150.68 just150.76 would151 like151.16 to151.32 remind151.4 everybody151.72 that152.12 this152.36 is152.52 an152.68 overlay153.56 district154.03 for154.44 zoning,154.68 and155.07 it155.31 is155.4 not155.72 a156.11 requirement156.28 to156.91 build157.07 anything.157.47
169.08 LACORTIGLIA169.08 -169.08 Thank169.08 you,169.88 Frank.170.2 It171.8 doesn't171.96 appear172.2 as172.52 though172.6 we172.84 have173 anyone173.32 tonight173.72 from174.04 Merrimack174.28 Valley174.76 Planning175.08 Commission175.4 that175.72 will175.88 be176.04 joining176.12 us.176.52
176.92 O'CONNOR176.92 -176.92 I176.92 was177 expecting177.24 somebody,180.44 my180.91 usual180.91 contact184.53 has184.68 had184.68 a184.68 child,184.91 and185.24 I185.47 was185.56 working185.72 with186.03 a186.19 colleague186.28 to186.75 have186.83 somebody187.79 come188.35 in188.59 and188.75 join188.91 us189.16 this189.31 evening.189.56 I'm189.88 just190.03 not190.19 seeing191.16 anybody191.47 in191.88 the192.03 waiting192.11 room,192.35 but193.34 I193.58 did193.74 provide194.14 him194.54 both194.7 the196.62 information198.78 with199.26 the199.42 link199.58 and,200.3 had200.94 traded201.66 with202.06 him,204.97 and204.97 he204.97 sounded205.21 confident205.53 that205.84 he206 would206.16 make206.32 himself206.49 available.206.81
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228.31 LACORTIGLIA228.31 -228.31 In228.31 the228.47 meantime,228.63 why230.07 don't230.23 you230.47 go230.71 over230.95 the231.19 three231.35 districts,231.67 the232.87 three233.03 locales,233.27 and234.55 let237.88 everyone238.13 know238.53 what241.16 Merrimack241.41 Valley241.88 has242.21 come242.36 up242.53 with242.69 at242.93 this243 point.243.16
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247.32 GEORGE247.32 COMISKEY247.32 -247.32 PLANNING247.32 BOARD247.32 MEMBER247.32 -247.32 I247.32 think247.41 we247.65 better247.81 put248.13 the248.28 bylaw248.53 right248.93 up.249.25
252.04 O'CONNOR252.04 -252.04 Yes,252.04 sir.252.28
253 LIZA253 CAMERON253 -253 PLANNING257.4 BOARD257.4 MEMBER257.4 -257.4 Let257.4 me257.64 know257.72 if257.88 you257.96 want258.12 me258.36 to258.52 share258.6 or258.84 if259 Harry's259.16 going259.48 to259.72 share259.72 or259.96 Frank260.2 you're260.52 going260.68 to261 share.261
262.04 O'CONNOR262.04 -262.04 Could262.04 you262.28 do262.36 that,262.52 please,262.68 Liza?262.92
264.2 CAMERON264.2 -264.2 And,264.2 George,264.36 you264.76 want264.84 the265.08 bylaw,265.24 not265.72 the265.96 images267.56 of268.13 the268.29 zones?268.44
270.93 COMISKEY270.93 -270.93 Maybe270.93 we271.4 we271.65 can271.73 refer271.88 to272.21 that272.37 too,272.52 but,272.76 yes,272.93 I273.09 will273.25 keep273.4 it273.65 handy,274.05 but274.76 just274.76 so275 people275.17 know275.56 what275.73 bylaw276.05 we're276.44 talking277.17 about,277.49 I277.73 think277.88 we279.67 can279.75 have279.83 it279.99 up280.23 there280.39 so280.63 we280.79 can280.95 discuss281.51 it.285.75
285.99 CAMERON285.99 -285.99 Is285.99 that286.07 big286.31 enough286.47 or286.71 you286.95 need287.03 it287.19 bigger?287.35
288.39 COMISKEY288.39 -288.39 I288.39 see288.63 it288.95 fine.289.19
304.61 O'CONNOR304.61 -304.61 Thank305.17 you,305.32 Liza.305.49 This309.5 particular309.9 bylaw310.78 draft311.26 is312.94 designated313.34 downtown315.02 so316.7 that319.42 when319.42 we319.58 were319.74 putting319.9 this320.14 together,320.38 back322.32 for322.49 the322.73 December322.96 town324.25 meeting,324.56 it324.96 was325.05 a325.21 way325.29 to325.61 differentiate325.85 between326.96 another327.29 bylaw327.76 draft328.17 that328.4 did328.56 not328.81 get328.96 moved329.85 forward.330.17 The332.88 only333.05 changes333.44 that333.85 I334.08 would334.25 like334.49 to334.65 make334.73 to335.05 this335.29 tonight,335.61 or337.19 would337.43 suggest337.75 is338.71 if339.03 we339.11 could339.27 scroll339.51 down339.83 to340.31 the340.55 parcel340.95 sizes,344.07 right344.79 there,345.51 thank345.67 you345.67 very345.91 much.346.07 When347.91 we348.23 went348.39 forward348.63 in350.65 December,350.98 the352.65 text352.9 in353.21 black353.46 across354.1 for354.65 the354.9 lot355.86 size356.18 of356.57 minimum356.81 5,000357.38 square358.01 feet.358.42 The359.86 one360.01 I360.25 would360.34 really360.57 encourage361.69 the362.25 planning362.42 board362.81 to363.21 change363.46 would363.86 be364.1 the364.25 one364.42 that's364.65 just365.14 for365.38 the365.46 downtown.365.7 I367.06 did367.3 speak367.54 to367.94 Mr.368.18 Burns368.58 and369.7 by370.1 changing370.34 it370.74 from370.98 5000371.3 to372.66 10,000372.74 square373.38 feet373.62 for373.86 downtown374.1 would375.38 still375.7 help376.18 us376.42 be376.82 able376.98 to377.38 get378.74 to378.98 750379.14 units380.34 possibly381.35 by382.38 combining382.46 the384.94 three385.1 parcels385.43 for386.79 acreage.386.94 But389.02 this389.26 would389.5 give389.75 us389.9 another390.46 means391.35 to391.9 slow392.31 down392.79 and393.1 help393.43 control393.75 the394.79 development,395.02 specifically396.08 in396.56 the396.72 downtown396.96 area.397.44 Longview399.52 area400.4 and400.88 the401.2 housing401.36 authority401.84 area402.16 staying402.96 at403.28 5,000403.44 feet,404.08 really404.96 doesn't405.2 change405.52 anything.405.84 But407.04 some407.28 quick407.6 math,407.92 by409.43 focusing409.75 on410.38 the410.71 downtown410.94 minimum411.5 parcel411.99 size412.31 of412.63 10,000412.79 square413.43 feet413.75 is414.71 roughly414.87 quarter415.35 of415.67 an415.75 acre.415.9 At418.23 15418.46 units418.87 an419.26 acre,419.43 that's422.08 roughly422.4 3/4423.44 units424.08 for425.12 10,000425.44 square426.08 feet.426.4
426.64 So426.64 rounding426.88 up427.28 would428 be428.24 four428.4 units428.8 to429.92 get430 to430.32 a431.76 quarter431.92 of432.24 an432.32 acre,432.48 10,000432.8 square433.52 feet.433.84 If435.37 you're435.44 in435.69 the435.76 vicinity435.93 of437.29 the437.52 town438.88 hall,439.21 the439.85 library,440 the442.17 junction442.49 of445.85 133445.85 and446.88 97,447.05 it's448.4 very448.64 snug.449.13 A451.26 lot451.42 of451.5 the451.66 build451.74 out452.86 is453.02 on453.42 3,000454.54 to455.58 5,000455.82 square456.38 foot456.86 parcels.457.02 So,458.3 to458.7 attain458.94 10,000461.02 square461.58 feet461.9 as462.14 a462.38 minimum462.46 parcel,462.94 a464.4 potential464.63 developer465.04 would466 need466.15 to466.31 buy466.4 two467.44 or467.68 three467.83 parcels468.07 at469.27 a469.44 layout469.51 of470.71 possibly470.96 north471.44 of471.68 a471.83 million471.92 dollars.472.24 I473.04 think473.27 that's473.51 a473.75 safe473.92 math476.83 equation477.07 to477.47 get477.63 to477.87 10,000478.27 square478.91 feet.479.31 Then480.99 to481.47 find481.63 out481.95 what482.67 they483.07 would483.23 do483.47 with483.63 that,483.79 to484.35 meet484.51 Title485.31 5485.63 compliance,485.87 off486.83 street487.07 parking,487.31 and489.43 to489.67 demolish490.55 anything491.19 that491.5 would491.67 be491.82 there.491.99 While492.31 some492.55 of492.71 the492.79 homes492.94 are493.26 older,493.43 they494.87 are495.03 in495.19 good495.35 stead,496.15 and,496.87 at496.87 some497.11 point,497.26 if497.59 somebody497.82 wanted498.15 to498.38 do498.55 something498.71 at499.26 that499.5 density499.67 of500.15 four501.19 units501.5 on502.15 10,000502.46 square503.11 feet,503.43 they'd504.72 be504.96 looking505.04 at505.28 the506.4 cost506.64 to507.04 demolish507.44 and507.92 then508.08 address508.56 anything509.04 that509.28 might509.52 be509.6 in509.76 those509.84 homes510.08 that510.64 are510.88 older511.04 such511.36 as511.6 lead511.84 paint,512.08 asbestos513.76 on514.56 some515.6 pipe516.4 coverings,516.8 tar518.29 roof518.7 shingles519.1 on519.82 roofs,520.13 things520.46 of520.7 that520.77 nature521.01 that521.25 would522.05 add522.38 to522.7 the523.1 cost523.65 possibly524.38 making524.93 it525.25 prohibitive525.41 to527.1 increase527.34 the527.74 density527.89 in528.38 the528.46 downtown528.62 area.529.17 So,530.46 I531.67 really531.83 do532.15 like532.47 the532.71 idea532.79 of533.11 moving533.27 just533.83 the534.31 downtown534.63 minimum535.27 parcel535.83 size536.23 from536.55 5,000536.71 to537.75 10,000537.91 square538.47 feet,538.79 with539.91 the540.15 planning540.31 board's540.63 blessing.541.19 And542.39 have543.35 no543.67 problem543.83 leaving544.15 the544.47 rest544.63 of544.87 the545.03 document545.11 as546.52 written547.49 in547.73 the547.96 black548.61 text,549 which549.32 was549.57 what549.73 we549.88 used550.04 for550.76 the550.92 December551.08 town552.04 meeting.552.28
556.61 LACORTIGLIA556.61 -556.61 Thank556.61 you,557.08 Frank.557.32 Were558.2 there558.44 any558.68 other559 changes559.4 that559.88 you560.04 were560.2 hoping560.44 to560.85 make?560.92
563.91 O'CONNOR563.91 -563.91 No,564.23 these564.55 are564.55 some564.63 of564.79 the564.87 things565.03 that565.19 we565.35 had565.43 kicked565.59 around,565.83 perhaps567.27 increasing567.83 the568.31 stories568.63 height,569.27 off574.78 street574.95 parking575.26 when575.66 we575.83 get575.9 further576.14 down.576.38 How576.63 would576.87 we577.02 ratio577.18 out577.66 the577.9 parking578.07 per578.63 bedroom?578.87 But580.54 I580.78 can580.87 live581.02 with581.26 all581.42 that.581.66 Ian582.3 Burns582.54 kind584.07 of584.38 talked584.38 me584.63 into585.5 just585.9 leaving586.23 it586.63 as586.78 is587.02 and587.26 not587.42 doing587.66 anything587.83 that588.14 would588.38 possibly589.46 jeopardize589.94 us590.5 running590.74 out591.38 of591.62 the591.7 matrix.591.94 But593.22 if593.7 we593.86 change594.1 just594.58 the594.98 10,000595.14 square595.7 foot596.1 parcel596.66 size597.06 downtown,597.78 we598.98 would599.22 stay602.74 in602.74 good602.98 stead603.22 and603.54 keep603.62 in604.84 compliance605 with605.48 our605.72 action605.88 plan.606.2
610.51 LACORTIGLIA610.51 -610.51 That610.51 being610.75 said611.08 and,611.55 I'm612.27 just612.43 going612.67 to613.08 go613.08 to613.24 George.613.48 George,613.88 you614.36 seem614.84 to615.08 want615.24 the615.55 text615.72 up616.27 here,616.43 and617.89 I618.85 can619.09 appreciate619.33 that.619.89
622.53 COMISKEY622.53 -622.53 Yes,623.73 my624.13 suggestion624.37 is625.09 that625.25 we625.49 come627.73 out627.89 with628.13 a628.37 clean628.45 copy,628.93 including630.88 what631.36 we631.51 had631.68 in631.92 December,632.15 and632.8 any633.04 suggested633.75 changes634.32 that634.72 Frank635.12 is635.36 making635.51 be636 done636.15 on636.48 town636.63 meeting636.88 floor.637.2 I638.96 think639.12 we639.36 need639.51 a639.75 definitive640.96 number.641.75 If643.83 this644.07 is644.23 going644.39 to644.55 be644.55 changed644.71 at645.03 town645.19 meeting,645.51 you646.31 know,646.47 from646.79 Ian647.03 Burns647.27 telling647.75 us648.07 what648.47 the648.71 compliance648.87 model649.35 shows649.83 if651.19 we651.43 go651.51 to651.75 10,000651.91 square652.55 feet.652.87 But653.75 I653.99 don't654.07 think654.31 we're655.43 allowed655.67 to656.07 change656.23 a658.15 bylaw658.32 that658.88 comes659.12 from659.36 the659.51 selectmen659.67 to662.48 make662.88 changes663.12 during663.51 a663.83 public663.91 hearing.664.39 So,668.32 I'm668.55 all668.79 for668.96 if669.36 someone669.51 wants669.91 to670.24 make670.32 a670.48 change670.63 at670.88 town671.12 meeting,671.36 has672.83 to672.91 go672.99 to673.23 10,000,673.39 you674.27 know,674.43 and674.67 it's675.63 MVPC675.79 by676.83 then677.07 gives677.63 us677.95 a678.19 written678.35 blessing678.67 or679.15 something,679.39 and680.75 someone680.91 can681.31 make681.55 a681.79 motion682.27 at682.59 town682.75 meeting682.99 to683.31 make683.47 that683.71 change,684.19 but685.59 I685.59 have685.67 no685.99 information686.63 on687.35 what687.59 the687.75 compliance687.9 model688.47 shows.688.79 I689.18 think689.35 Liza690.47 has690.95 the693.42 PowerPoint693.59 presentation694.23 that694.87 shows695.11 exactly695.5 what696.07 the698.08 model699.12 is699.52 showing699.76 for700 total700.24 number700.56 oy,704.08 yes,704.32 it704.32 has704.32 68705.68 acres,706.24 831706.64 units,708.08 and709.44 it709.68 gets709.84 a710.16 specific710.24 per710.88 district.712.29 Everything713.88 is714.37 based714.61 on718.29 what718.29 we718.29 had718.52 a718.76 town718.85 meeting.719.09
719.8 LACORTIGLIA719.8 -719.8 Perhaps719.8 it720.13 would720.21 be720.37 good720.45 at720.68 this720.76 point,720.93 George,721.17 since721.49 we've721.73 already721.97 seen722.29 the723.09 version723.33 of724.29 the724.61 bylaw,724.85 the725.4 written725.57 text725.97 of726.29 the726.37 bylaw,727.68 we've727.84 already727.84 seen728.08 that,728.4 and728.56 I729.6 think729.76 everyone730 understands730.4 that730.96 that's731.12 what731.44 goes733.52 on733.84 to734.08 the734.24 warrant734.4 one734.88 way735.04 or735.2 the735.28 other,736.8 any737.04 changes737.04 from737.52 that,737.68 any738 deviations738.64 naturally739.36 have739.84 to740 be740.08 done740.16 from740.4 the740.56 floor.740.72 But,741.36 for742.45 purposes742.61 of743.4 this743.73 public744.04 hearing744.37 and746.04 believe746.28 me,746.61 I746.85 get747 it,747.57 this747.8 is,747.8 like,747.96 the748.21 third748.28 time748.52 or748.68 something748.85 like749.16 that749.33 that749.57 we've750.21 gone750.37 through750.52 this750.76 public751 hearing751.33 process.751.64 For753.4 the753.64 benefit753.73 of754.21 the754.37 public,754.52 both756.06 here756.38 and,757.02 potentially757.82 watching758.54 this758.86 at759.82 a759.98 later760.14 date,760.54 maybe762.14 it762.46 would762.62 behoove762.94 us763.42 to763.74 go764.54 over764.78 the765.02 three765.26 areas766.14 of766.54 town766.7 that767.73 comprise767.97 to768.52 make768.76 up769 the769.88 750770.04 additional771.97 units772.61 of773.33 capacity773.73 that775.09 the775.25 state775.4 is775.64 looking775.8 for.776.13
778.21 CAMERON778.21 -778.21 Harry,778.21 can778.52 I778.68 ask779 you779.17 a779.49 quick779.8 question779.97 to780.52 follow780.76 on781 to781.25 George's781.4 comment?781.97
783.16 LACORTIGLIA783.16 -783.16 Please.783.16
784.44 CAMERON784.44 -784.44 The784.44 version784.44 that784.44 actually784.68 went785 to785.32 the785.56 select785.72 board,786.04 did786.68 it786.92 have787.08 the787.48 red787.72 in787.96 it788.12 and788.52 the788.76 black788.92 or789.24 just789.4 the789.64 black?789.8 I790.04 just790.12 want790.36 to790.6 make790.6 sure790.68 what790.92 did791.08 the791.32 select791.4 board791.72 actually792.04 have?793.16
793.72 LACORTIGLIA793.72 -793.72 Good793.72 question.793.96 Frank794.36 Frank794.68 O'Connor,794.92 can795.4 you795.48 answer795.64 that?795.88
796.44 O'CONNOR796.44 -796.44 Yes,796.76 it797 had797.24 both797.4 the797.64 red797.8 and798.04 the798.2 black.798.36
799.29 LACORTIGLIA799.29 -799.29 This799.29 is799.53 the799.69 version?800.57
800.82 O'CONNOR800.82 -800.82 Correct.800.82
804.33 COMISKEY804.33 -804.33 But804.33 you804.65 explained804.89 to805.29 him805.45 that805.69 the805.93 red806.1 was806.41 possible807.62 changes808.25 that808.65 could808.82 be809.05 made.809.13
809.77 O'CONNOR809.77 -809.77 That's809.77 correct,810.01 sir.810.33
810.41 COMISKEY811.53 -811.53 Okay.811.53
816.55 LACORTIGLIA816.55 -816.55 Does816.55 that816.87 answer817.11 your817.43 question,817.51 Liza?817.99
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