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10416.91 SPEAKER110416.91 -10416.91 All10416.91 in10417.15 favor,10417.39 Mister10417.95 Mulligan?10418.19

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10420.35 SPEAKER1010420.35 -10420.35 yes?10420.35 JS?10421.07 Yes.10421.55

10422.83 SPEAKER910422.83 -10422.83 Mister10422.83 Harper10423.15 votes10423.63 yes.10423.86 Yes.10424.75

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