2024-10-21_TownMeeting-0u860

Georgetown Board of Selectmen

Monday October 21, 2024

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DOUGLAS174.16 DAWES174.16 -174.16 BOARD174.16 OF174.16 SELECTMEN174.16 CHAIR174.16 -174.16 Good174.16 evening,174.32 ladies174.72 and175.04 gentlemen.175.2 Welcome175.6 to176 the176.4 Monday,177.44 October177.92 21st,178.4 2024179.28 Board180.48 of180.8 Selectmen180.96 Meeting.181.6 Chairman183.36 Lamonica184.56 will185.36 not185.52 be185.76 here185.92 this186.16 evening,186.72 he186.88 had186.88 something187.12 that187.44 came187.52 up.187.76 So,188.96 we189.19 will189.44 begin189.68 the190.4 meeting190.56 with191.03 a191.44 moment191.68 of192 silence,192.16 please.192.64

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DAWES244.92 -244.92 Orlando,244.92 do245.96 we246.19 need246.36 to246.59 announce247 that247.4 KP248.03 understanding?249.24 Is249.79 that249.96 just250.12 a250.36 memorandum250.51 of250.79 understanding251.07 about252.51 the252.84 public253.16 health?253.56

254.68 ORLANDO254.68 PACHECO254.68 -254.68 TOWN255.16 OF255.4 GEORGETOWN255.4 -255.4 No,255.4 that255.4 one255.4 is255.4 just255.56 allowing257.76 them258 to258.24 represent258.48 multiple258.8 communities259.2 at259.6 the259.84 same259.92 time.260.16

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267.2 DAWES267.2 -267.2 Okay.267.2 So267.2 first267.52 before267.84 we268.16 get268.32 started,268.56 is268.88 there268.96 anybody269.12 from269.44 the269.68 public269.84 that270.16 needs270.32 a270.64 comment270.72 on271.2 something271.52 on271.92 the272.08 agenda?272.24 Seeing274.89 none,275.21 we'll275.45 move275.62 on.275.86 Tonight,276.18 we276.57 have276.81 our278.74 favorite278.98 thing279.45 to279.69 talk279.86 about,280.18 real280.89 estate281.21 taxes,282.57 and,284.42 our284.42 assistant284.57 assessor,285.06 Tom285.62 Berube,285.86 is286.33 with286.5 us.286.74 This288.02 is288.34 a288.5 public288.74 hearing,289.06 so289.38 we289.62 have289.78 to290.1 open290.34 the290.66 public290.82 hearing,291.3 right?291.7

292.42 PACHECO292.42 -292.42 Yes.292.42

292.58 DAWES292.58 -292.58 So292.58 a292.82 motion292.9 to293.22 open293.38 the293.7 public293.86 hearing294.18 for294.5 the294.74 purposes294.9 of295.46 annual295.7 tax296.18 classification?296.58

297.54 RACHAEL297.54 BANCROFT297.54 -297.54 BOARD297.54 OF297.54 SELECTMEN297.54 MEMBER297.54 -297.54 So297.54 moved.297.78

299.22 ROBERT299.22 HOOVER299.22 -299.22 BOARD299.22 OF299.22 SELECTMEN299.22 MEMBER299.22 -299.22 Second.299.22

299.22 DAWES299.22 -299.22 Okay.299.22 We299.54 have299.7 motion299.86 and300.18 second.300.26 Any300.66 discussion?300.82 Hearing302.37 none,302.52 all302.93 in303.17 favor?303.25

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312.29 THOMAS312.29 BERUBE312.29 -312.29 TOWN312.29 OF312.29 GEORGETOWN312.29 -312.29 As312.29 mentioned,312.52 it's312.85 the313.08 annual313.32 tax314.06 classification314.38 hearing,315.02 which315.34 is315.5 required315.66 as316.62 part316.78 of316.94 the317.1 tax317.34 rate317.74 setting318.06 procedure.319.58 It's321.42 an321.74 opportunity321.9 for322.7 your323.26 board323.58 to324.06 make325.18 a325.42 decision325.5 on326.22 whether326.54 or326.86 not327.02 they327.26 want327.34 to327.74 redistribute327.74 within328.76 the329.09 levy,329.65 whether330.85 they331.17 want331.32 to331.65 shift331.65 some331.88 of332.05 the332.21 burden332.37 from332.69 certain333 classes333.4 within333.81 the335.73 real335.88 estate336.13 to336.85 other337.09 classes.337.4 That337.96 would338.13 be338.29 the338.53 four338.76 classes339 of339.32 property339.49 that339.88 we're340.05 dealing340.21 with340.53 are340.76 residential,340.93 open342.03 space,342.27 commercial,343.71 and344.35 industrial.344.51 Before349.47 we349.71 delve349.87 too350.19 deeply350.35 into350.67 that350.99 though,351.15 I351.39 understand351.55 that352.03 there352.19 is352.43 a353.07 town353.23 meeting353.55 that353.87 you354.03 have354.19 set354.35 for354.59 December354.91 9th,358.6 correct?358.75 So,358.75 one358.75 of358.75 the358.91 impediments359.07 to359.56 getting359.79 our360.12 tax360.27 rate360.6 certified360.91 would361.63 be361.79 if362.12 we362.27 had362.44 a362.68 pending362.83 meeting363.24 where363.56 we363.79 were363.95 going364.12 to364.44 be364.6 spending364.91 money365.31 on365.88 something366.12 because367.07 we367.39 can't367.56 submit368.12 the368.51 tax368.68 recap369 until370.27 all371 of371.24 that371.31 financial371.48 activity372.04 has372.44 taken372.68 place.372.91 Now,374.24 it's374.48 allowed374.8 for375.12 us375.28 to375.52 have375.68 a376 town376.08 meeting376.4 as377.68 long377.92 as378.16 we're378.24 not378.48 going378.64 to378.88 spend378.88 any379.12 money.379.28

379.76 DAWES379.76 -379.76 I379.76 don't379.92 believe380.16 there380.56 was380.8 any380.96 intention381.2 of381.68 spending382.72 money.383.2 Will384.4 there384.56 be384.72 any384.88 that's385.2 transferred385.69 around386.1 line386.41 item,386.74 the387.06 line387.21 item?387.29

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432.08 DAWES432.08 -432.08 And432.08 Orlando,432.24 what's432.56 the432.8 date432.96 on433.2 that?433.28

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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE

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