Georgetown Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday April 2, 2024
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1815.36 MULLIGAN1815.36 -1815.36 Yeah.1815.36 It1815.51 it's1815.92 the1818.02 planning1818.41 board1818.82 does1819.13 not1819.3 have1819.54 an1819.7 admin.1819.86 So1821.06 one1821.3 of1821.54 the1821.62 members1821.78 tried1822.34 putting1822.65 this1822.89 together.1823.13 So1824.1 that1825.38 They1825.7 can1825.93 eliminate.1826.97
1827.84 OGDEN1827.84 -1827.84 The1827.84 amending1828.16 the1828.64 use1828.8 of1828.96 test1829.2 schedules1830 doesn't1830.64 refer1830.96 to1831.28 Scrivenery1832.16 error1832.56 or1832.56 anything.1832.64 It1833.04 just1833.2 refers1834.32 to1834.72 adding1834.88 that1835.2 footnote.1838.57
1839.37 MULLIGAN1839.37 -1839.37 No.1839.37 The1839.77 bottom1840.64 one1840.96 is1841.44 to1841.85 change1842.09 the1842.4 Scrivener1848.2 error.1848.2 Okay.1848.2 To1848.84 change1849.24 the1849.56 word1849.72 from1850.12 to1850.76 the1850.92 word1851.08 front1851.4 because1852.37 it1852.68 changed1852.77 the1853.09 footnote.1853.16
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1919.27 MULLIGAN1919.27 -1919.27 The1919.27 first1919.67 public1919.99 hearing1920.39 is1920.87 signed1921.11 continuance1921.51 of1922.15 2031922.97 East1923.54 Main1923.86 Street1924.1 to1924.97 July1925.22 2,1925.7 2024.1927.38
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1978.84 NANCY1978.84 MCKINNON1978.84 -1978.84 G1978.84 MELLO1978.84 DISPOSAL1978.84 CORPORATION1978.84 -1978.84 Thank1978.84 you1979.08 very1979.24 much.1979.4 My1979.64 name1979.8 is1979.96 Nancy1980.04 McKinnon.1980.44 I'm1980.84 here1980.92 on1981.08 behalf1981.24 of1981.56 G1981.8 Mello1982.04 Disposal1983 Corporation1983.48 requesting1984.12 a1984.52 continuance1984.76 to1985.4 your1985.64 meeting1985.88 of1986.2 July1986.28 2,1986.76 2024.1987.24
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1996.22 MCKINNON1996.22 -1996.22 Yes.1996.22 We1998.7 have1998.94 resolved1999.34 the2000.06 court2000.22 case2000.54 relative2000.94 to2001.58 the2001.98 conservation2002.46 commission.2003.1 A2004.86 superseding2004.93 order2005.58 was2005.82 issued2005.98 by2006.3 DEP2006.62 some2007.17 time2007.41 ago.2007.58 And,2008.62 more2009.41 recently,2009.74 we've2010.13 met2010.38 with2010.54 the2010.78 conservation2010.93 commission2011.65 and2012.13 they2012.3 have,2012.54 on2013.34 a2013.5 remand2013.66 from2014.14 the2014.38 court,2014.54 issued2014.94 an2015.5 order2015.74 of2016.06 conditions,2016.14 under2017.58 the2017.82 local2017.98 bylaw,2018.38 so2018.78 that's2019.02 resolved.2019.42 We2020.46 received2020.78 our,2021.78 major2022.97 development2023.38 review2023.93 special2024.41 permit2024.82 from2025.3 the2025.54 planning2025.7 board.2026.17 We2027.22 appealed2027.54 based2028.73 on2029.22 several2029.62 of2030.1 those2030.26 conditions.2030.73 However,2031.96 we're2032.6 in,2033 negotiation2033.8 discussions2034.52 with2035.08 regard2035.4 to2035.8 those2035.96 conditions.2037.48
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2096.34 MULLIGAN2096.34 -2096.34 Okay.2096.34
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2162.47 MCKINNON2162.47 -2162.47 Yes.2162.47
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2164.37 MCKINNON2164.37 -2164.37 Yes.2164.37
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2313.47 MULLIGAN2313.47 -2313.47 Alright.2313.47 And2314.19 the2315.15 next2315.47 public2315.79 hearing2316.19 is2316.67 the2317.47 continuance2317.95 of2318.91 1882319.39 Andover2320.27 Street,2320.91 which2322.18 the2322.59 applicant2322.82 is2323.39 seeking2323.7 a2324.34 variance.2324.74 We2340.47 had2340.71 the2341.03 original2341.28 hearing,2341.76 November2342.47 7th.2342.95 2nd2345.52 hearing2345.84 was2346.24 December2346.48 5th,2346.88 and2348.32 that2348.48 was2348.64 continued2348.96 and2349.84 it2350.48 was2350.64 postponed2350.88 and2352.32 moved2352.48 back2352.72 here.2352.96 The2353.93 one2354.89 wrinkle2355.3 when2356.57 we2356.97 first2357.38 heard2357.86 this2359.05 meeting,2359.3 we2360.09 had2360.26 a2360.49 full2360.66 board.2360.97 So2362.25 Jay,2362.73 Leo,2363.21 John,2363.61 myself,2363.93 and2364.73 Kat2365.05 were2365.69 the2365.93 voting2366.09 members.2366.41
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