Highlights
At a meeting on March 26th, chaired by Thomas Mulligan, the Georgetown Zoning Board of Appeals focused on discussing proposed bylaw amendments rather than hearing cases. The purpose of these amendments is to update the town's definition of daycare, after discovering that state regulations do not differentiate between daycare and nursery schools as previously believed. Mulligan proposed either adding a new definition for daycare or revising the existing one for nursery schools to include daycare services. The ultimate goal is to have these amendments reviewed and potentially included in the upcoming annual town meeting, with input from the Board of Selectmen and the Planning Board.
Georgetown Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday March 26, 2024
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
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